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	<title>Comments on: Do You Take Photos or Make Photos?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response "Make Photos".

I think it's misleading to say that taking photos is equivalent to photographing what is only present. Making photos isn't just about manipulating the scene or adding to it. Making photos is about seeing a scene and getting the most out of it. Knowing how to work the light, knowing how use your camera to get the effect you want, applying filters, and then of course adding to the scene with props, people, etc.  I bet more people who answered "Take Photos" actually "Make Photos" and don't realize it.

Cameras are tools to capture scenes in various ways whether that is to create shallow depth of field to isolate your subject or to slow your shutter speed and pan to blur your subject. All these setting adjustments are part of "Making" photos. It's not just about adding people and objects or bringing in strobes.

I hope those that have thought about the concept of "Take" versus "Make" photos think about their answer a little deeper. It's not always obvious when we as photographers "Make" vs. "Take" a photo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response &#8220;Make Photos&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s misleading to say that taking photos is equivalent to photographing what is only present. Making photos isn&#8217;t just about manipulating the scene or adding to it. Making photos is about seeing a scene and getting the most out of it. Knowing how to work the light, knowing how use your camera to get the effect you want, applying filters, and then of course adding to the scene with props, people, etc.  I bet more people who answered &#8220;Take Photos&#8221; actually &#8220;Make Photos&#8221; and don&#8217;t realize it.</p>
<p>Cameras are tools to capture scenes in various ways whether that is to create shallow depth of field to isolate your subject or to slow your shutter speed and pan to blur your subject. All these setting adjustments are part of &#8220;Making&#8221; photos. It&#8217;s not just about adding people and objects or bringing in strobes.</p>
<p>I hope those that have thought about the concept of &#8220;Take&#8221; versus &#8220;Make&#8221; photos think about their answer a little deeper. It&#8217;s not always obvious when we as photographers &#8220;Make&#8221; vs. &#8220;Take&#8221; a photo.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80358</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely in the both camp. For landscapes I'm all about the taking but as I work on my Strobist lighting I'm finding myself wanting to direct more, such as with
Candy Necklace: http://www.flickr.com/photos/snwbeast/2390510374/
and
Dancing Glowsticks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/snwbeast/2296694752/in/set-72157604028633661/

-- C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely in the both camp. For landscapes I&#8217;m all about the taking but as I work on my Strobist lighting I&#8217;m finding myself wanting to direct more, such as with<br />
Candy Necklace: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/snwbeast/2390510374/" >http://www.flickr.com/photos/snwbeast/2390510374/</a><br />
and<br />
Dancing Glowsticks: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/snwbeast/2296694752/in/set-72157604028633661/" >http://www.flickr.com/photos/snwbeast/2296694752/in/set-72157604028633661/</a></p>
<p>&#8211; C</p>
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		<title>By: Lucus Crawford</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80314</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucus Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with Travis above me. I don't think there is anything wrong with either taking or making photo's, it is more of what you are comfortable with and which direction you want to lean towards and learn.

Myself, since I am still a noob at photography I am in the take category. I don't think I have the technical knowledge yet to bring all my ideas to a satisfying shot (at least satisfying to me) if I was to attempt a make shot. I see all these wonderful, creative setup shots on sites like &lt;a href="http://www.dpchallenge.com/index.php" rel="nofollow"&gt; DPChallenge&lt;/a&gt; and know I am not quite there to compete but its a great inspiration. 

I feel the natural progression for a hobby photographer like myself is to take photo's then as you learn and grow you end up on the make side and doing both Just like Brian says in his original post about being more artistic, this comes in time as you get to know the camera better and more importantly yourself and your shooting style. 

These are my beliefs and opinions take as necessary :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with Travis above me. I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with either taking or making photo&#8217;s, it is more of what you are comfortable with and which direction you want to lean towards and learn.</p>
<p>Myself, since I am still a noob at photography I am in the take category. I don&#8217;t think I have the technical knowledge yet to bring all my ideas to a satisfying shot (at least satisfying to me) if I was to attempt a make shot. I see all these wonderful, creative setup shots on sites like <a href="http://www.dpchallenge.com/index.php" > DPChallenge</a> and know I am not quite there to compete but its a great inspiration. </p>
<p>I feel the natural progression for a hobby photographer like myself is to take photo&#8217;s then as you learn and grow you end up on the make side and doing both Just like Brian says in his original post about being more artistic, this comes in time as you get to know the camera better and more importantly yourself and your shooting style. </p>
<p>These are my beliefs and opinions take as necessary <img src='http://blog.epicedits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Denis Rito</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80285</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Rito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can say that I do both. But most of the time, I'm a taker. Except when am working on a concept, wherein I became a 'creator or makerr' of images.

Cheers! =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can say that I do both. But most of the time, I&#8217;m a taker. Except when am working on a concept, wherein I became a &#8216;creator or makerr&#8217; of images.</p>
<p>Cheers! =)</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Campbell</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80238</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, hey, I got quoted! :-D

I have to agree with Bryan's comment.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing only one or the other.  I just happen to be at a point in my photographic learning curve where I find the creative process associated with making a photo as "the next challenge."  A lot of this internal next-step prodding has occurred because of my interest in Strobist and wanting to have more creative control over my photos.    At a certain point with Strobism, you get a decent enough handle on the technical side of things (place a light here, put a modifier there) that you start paying attention to other things in the photo.  It's not just about the light.

For me, being able to take and make a photo just makes me feel more well-rounded.  It's not for everybody.  As some folks have stated, they're perfectly happy doing exactly what they're doing and that is what makes photography satisfying.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, hey, I got quoted! <img src='http://blog.epicedits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have to agree with Bryan&#8217;s comment.  There&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with doing only one or the other.  I just happen to be at a point in my photographic learning curve where I find the creative process associated with making a photo as &#8220;the next challenge.&#8221;  A lot of this internal next-step prodding has occurred because of my interest in Strobist and wanting to have more creative control over my photos.    At a certain point with Strobism, you get a decent enough handle on the technical side of things (place a light here, put a modifier there) that you start paying attention to other things in the photo.  It&#8217;s not just about the light.</p>
<p>For me, being able to take and make a photo just makes me feel more well-rounded.  It&#8217;s not for everybody.  As some folks have stated, they&#8217;re perfectly happy doing exactly what they&#8217;re doing and that is what makes photography satisfying.  <img src='http://blog.epicedits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Liu</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80231</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take "pictures" but I make "photographs".  I learned that distinction from a mentor a while back.  I think of a picture as the larval stage of a photograph, much as  a grape is to wine.  Sometimes they both happen at the same instant with the click of the shutter, sometimes the photograph emerges in post.  In either case, I think of it as "taking" a picture of a scene and intentionally creating or "making" the resulting photograph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take &#8220;pictures&#8221; but I make &#8220;photographs&#8221;.  I learned that distinction from a mentor a while back.  I think of a picture as the larval stage of a photograph, much as  a grape is to wine.  Sometimes they both happen at the same instant with the click of the shutter, sometimes the photograph emerges in post.  In either case, I think of it as &#8220;taking&#8221; a picture of a scene and intentionally creating or &#8220;making&#8221; the resulting photograph.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Pennington</title>
		<link>http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/06/17/do-you-take-photos-or-make-photos/#comment-80220</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Pennington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take a slightly different approach.  The difference between "take" and "make" that I've adopted boils down to intent.  I liken "taken" photos to the snapshots produced by the average person wanting to merely have a picture of the grandkids, or what have you.  To "make" photos I think one must do so with the intention of conveying something deeper–in short, to make art.  By crafting images in our own personal style (whether in the camera or in Photoshop), we imbue each photo with a part of us and in a way that the casual snapshot can rarely manage.  We provide our interpretation of a scene or situation.  Others can, though our photos, see what we see.  

Admittedly, the above is biased as most of my photography is observational.  What I hadn't thought of–and after having read the question I realize I must take into account–are those who create photos.  By inventing a scene, a photographer has the potential to create more painterly images (i.e. the photographer can be more free with composition rather than relying on happenstance).  I've been happy with very few of the still-lifes I've set up, but I greatly admire those who can do it well.  Some of the spreads that Leibovitz has done for Vanity Fair (Killers Kill, Dead Men Die) and Disney are nothing short of astounding!

That said, I make photos but rarely create them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take a slightly different approach.  The difference between &#8220;take&#8221; and &#8220;make&#8221; that I&#8217;ve adopted boils down to intent.  I liken &#8220;taken&#8221; photos to the snapshots produced by the average person wanting to merely have a picture of the grandkids, or what have you.  To &#8220;make&#8221; photos I think one must do so with the intention of conveying something deeper–in short, to make art.  By crafting images in our own personal style (whether in the camera or in Photoshop), we imbue each photo with a part of us and in a way that the casual snapshot can rarely manage.  We provide our interpretation of a scene or situation.  Others can, though our photos, see what we see.  </p>
<p>Admittedly, the above is biased as most of my photography is observational.  What I hadn&#8217;t thought of–and after having read the question I realize I must take into account–are those who create photos.  By inventing a scene, a photographer has the potential to create more painterly images (i.e. the photographer can be more free with composition rather than relying on happenstance).  I&#8217;ve been happy with very few of the still-lifes I&#8217;ve set up, but I greatly admire those who can do it well.  Some of the spreads that Leibovitz has done for Vanity Fair (Killers Kill, Dead Men Die) and Disney are nothing short of astounding!</p>
<p>That said, I make photos but rarely create them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I admire the creativity and effort behind a "made" photo, the principals behind photojournalism and documentary photography (which I generally adhere to) compel me to do my best to capture the moment as it unfolds. Even though many beginning shooters might feel like they do not have the skills of a studio photographer, the art, skills, and science of "taking" a photo can be just as complex and involved as "making" a photo. Understanding available light, anticipating action, and responding to an unfolding scene are all difficult and complex variables that can be removed and controlled when a photographer enters a studio. Anyone who places the ability to "make" a photo on a pedestal above "taking" a photo should reconsider their motivations toward photography. Both areas are challenging in their own right.

So, Randy, and anyone else who "takes" photos, there is no need to feel sad. Just keep challenging yourself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I admire the creativity and effort behind a &#8220;made&#8221; photo, the principals behind photojournalism and documentary photography (which I generally adhere to) compel me to do my best to capture the moment as it unfolds. Even though many beginning shooters might feel like they do not have the skills of a studio photographer, the art, skills, and science of &#8220;taking&#8221; a photo can be just as complex and involved as &#8220;making&#8221; a photo. Understanding available light, anticipating action, and responding to an unfolding scene are all difficult and complex variables that can be removed and controlled when a photographer enters a studio. Anyone who places the ability to &#8220;make&#8221; a photo on a pedestal above &#8220;taking&#8221; a photo should reconsider their motivations toward photography. Both areas are challenging in their own right.</p>
<p>So, Randy, and anyone else who &#8220;takes&#8221; photos, there is no need to feel sad. Just keep challenging yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo Denbow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojo Denbow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I've been pondering this same thing for a month now. I've shot a lot of documentary and event and desire to get more creative. I'm just not sure how or even if I AM a creative. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I&#8217;ve been pondering this same thing for a month now. I&#8217;ve shot a lot of documentary and event and desire to get more creative. I&#8217;m just not sure how or even if I AM a creative. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: @Randem &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taking Photos vs. Making Photos</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Randem &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taking Photos vs. Making Photos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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